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Comments on: Mark and the ELit, or: Can’t We All Just Get Along? https://www.wordsend.org/2003/06/01/mark-and-the-elit-or-cant-we-all-just-get-along/ searching for the ineffable Sun, 01 Jun 2003 13:26:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1 By: Matt K. https://www.wordsend.org/2003/06/01/mark-and-the-elit-or-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=248#comment-41 You know, Diane Greco wrote not long ago that the “elit community” consists of maybe 200 people. A phrase like “can’t we all just get along” usually sticks in my craw, but I fear that if we can’t figure out how to do just that then pretty soon the whole enterprise is going to fly apart at the seams.

Mark Bernstein took what should have been an internal communication and made it an act of public dissension by sending a tendentious and misleading statement to everybody in his address book. The ELO’s response was, if anything, generous. Meanwhile, over on his own blog–which, incidentally, doesn’t allow for comments–Bernstein resorts to ad hominen attack. So I ask again: what are the real motives here?

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By: vika https://www.wordsend.org/2003/06/01/mark-and-the-elit-or-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=248#comment-42 There’s so much flying around my head that relates to this in some way, Matt, that I’m afraid I’ll be unintelligible. But, first, yes: “can’t we all…” is an atrocious phrase. Goodness, I wish you were here: the “elit community” may be small, but the community that *should* be promoting both electronic literature and other forms of humanities computing is bigger. I am very glad to see that the practitioners of elit and computing humanists (who are practitioners of an electronic art as well) are coming together: it couldn’t be more clear that we are all struggling with the same theoretical issues.

This is turning into a note from myself to myself, which I will use as a basis for another post about the conference.

I try not to take sides in conflicts to which I’m not party, and I’ve a strong distaste for academic/artistic politics in general. (By politics, here, I mean negotiation that stems from usually negative emotions and is not explicitly meant to be constructive.) But I do agree with you: Mark’s making this public was not a good move. That’s only one of the problems I have with his letter. It is in no way constructive. We need constructive. You don’t like the way things are done? Propose *concrete* alternatives, and here’s the trick: do this with enough tact to not antagonize people. (Dale Carnegie had a good point, really. True, lasting influence does not exist in an atmosphere charged with personal conflict.) If the majority dissents, there is nothing you can do but sit back and watch the consequences unfold. Someone will be wrong, we will learn from our mistakes and hone our subjective views. But subjectivity, in itself, is not evil. Its salt is in the application.

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