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	<title>Comments on: Born Digital competition</title>
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	<description>searching for the ineffable</description>
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		<title>By: vika</title>
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		<dc:creator>vika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 15:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tonx - oh, I agree.  I think Futurebook people do too, actually:  they mention the &quot;classic illuminative relationship between text and image.&quot;  To me, that implies a two-way relationship, and one more complex than combination.



Or are there elements in a manuscript page that extend beyond the categories &quot;text&quot; and &quot;image&quot;?  In which case, would you expand a bit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonx &#8211; oh, I agree.  I think Futurebook people do too, actually:  they mention the &#8220;classic illuminative relationship between text and image.&#8221;  To me, that implies a two-way relationship, and one more complex than combination.</p>
<p>Or are there elements in a manuscript page that extend beyond the categories &#8220;text&#8221; and &#8220;image&#8221;?  In which case, would you expand a bit?</p>
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		<title>By: t o n x</title>
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		<dc:creator>t o n x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think its probably a mistake to think of illumated manuscripts as simply a combination of text and image.  Terence McKenna has a juicy lecture on Marshall McLuhan that covers some intruiging ideas about this:



poor transcript: &lt;a href=&quot;http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:VV6lC1TW3NEJ:fusionanomaly.net/ridingrangewithmarshallmcluhan.html+mcluhan+illuminated+manuscript&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;strip=1&quot;&gt;Riding Range with Marshall McLuhan&lt;/a&gt;



There is audio of this &lt; a href=&quot;http://mckenna.psychedelic-library.org/terence%20mckenna%20-%20RidingRangeWithMarshallMcluhan%20rc.mp3&quot;&gt;here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think its probably a mistake to think of illumated manuscripts as simply a combination of text and image.  Terence McKenna has a juicy lecture on Marshall McLuhan that covers some intruiging ideas about this:</p>
<p>poor transcript: <a href="http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:VV6lC1TW3NEJ:fusionanomaly.net/ridingrangewithmarshallmcluhan.html+mcluhan+illuminated+manuscript&#038;hl=en&#038;lr=&#038;strip=1">Riding Range with Marshall McLuhan</a></p>
<p>There is audio of this < a href="http://mckenna.psychedelic-library.org/terence%20mckenna%20-%20RidingRangeWithMarshallMcluhan%20rc.mp3">here</p>
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